How many windows does the Enterprise-D have?

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How many windows does the Enterprise-D have?

Post by marsh8472 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:01 pm

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Anyone know how many windows the Enterprise-D has? I'm hoping someone has already figured it out and shared the answer somewhere. There's blueprints here http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/ed ... -1701d.php and the pictures above if people want to start counting otherwise :wtf:

Edit: I counted 3,237 windows for this project. I would probably give a +/- 100 window margin of error due to different window configurations with the different enterprise models used in the series, any human error in the blue prints, and any human error on my part. You're welcome to review my counts, I have the photoshop files posted later in this thread.

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Re: How many windows does the Enterprise-D have?

Post by marsh8472 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:01 pm

I'm going to guess there are around 3,000. An app can be made to try to categorize every window. It probably wouldn't take too long to find out.

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Re: How many windows does the Enterprise-D have?

Post by marsh8472 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:02 pm

I looked at some technical manuals but there's no mention of total number of windows :-(

The most straightforward way to do it is use this counting feature in photoshop



With these images http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/ed ... -1701d.php

I tried it a little, I counted 155 in this little bit of the saucer
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I just haven't had time to do it yet. Maybe this weekend unless someone else has the time

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Re: How many windows does the Enterprise-D have?

Post by marsh8472 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:02 pm

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I got some counts :) I'm getting 1146 windows on the top half of the saucer section

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Re: How many windows does the Enterprise-D have?

Post by marsh8472 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:03 pm

I tried asking the person who has been trying to make a 3d model of the enterprise at http://www.enterprise3dproject.com/ how many windows there were. I think he ignored me though. I feel like this guy when I ask how many windows the Enterprise-d has


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Re: How many windows does the Enterprise-D have?

Post by marsh8472 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:03 pm

I found some time to count the windows on the lower part of the saucer section. There are 590 windows there, about half as many as there are on the upper half

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1146 + 590 = 1736 total windows on the saucer section altogether. That just leaves the drive section left to count :beer:

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Re: How many windows does the Enterprise-D have?

Post by marsh8472 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:04 pm

Rick Sternbach, post: 11914353, member: 1163 wrote:Lots and lots. No, I haven't counted them, but I -have- added every one that I could see in the ILM six-footer photos as well as copies of some of the raw castings for the miniature. Some of the window configs from the 1996 Pocket Books blueprints changed for the canceled DeAgostini Ent-D set, but IIRC there weren't too many differences. Oh, and don't forget the Arboretum. :)
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Heyy neat I didn't realize you were on this site. Maybe no one's bothered to count them before. I have been pretty careful and making sure I don't miss any and not to accidentally count a port or something window-like as a window. Whenever I wasn't sure I would refer to other sources like yours and pictures from the show.

I did actually pull up a picture of the enterprise to verify those Arboretum windows were actually windows before counting them. :)

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I'll probably put up all the photoshop files when I'm done so people can peer review it later too

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Re: How many windows does the Enterprise-D have?

Post by marsh8472 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:04 pm

I ran into an inconsistency here. In the tech manual and the image I've been using the format on the side of shuttle bay 2 and 3 goes like this (2 win) (3 win) (shuttle bay 2) and (shuttle bay 3) (3 win) (2 win)

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But I have not seen it like this in any episode I've looked at and see inconsistencies between models in the episodes and in star trek generations

I see these formats in other blueprints and in episodes
(2 win) (2 win) (shuttle bay 2) (shuttle bay 3) (2 win) (2 win)
(2 win) (4 win) (shuttle bay 2) (shuttle bay 3) (3 win) (2 win)
(2 win) (4 win) (shuttle bay 2) (shuttle bay 3) (4 win) (2 win)

not seeing this anywhere in episodes
(2 win) (3 win) (shuttle bay 2) (shuttle bay 3) (3 win) (2 win)


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Re: How many windows does the Enterprise-D have?

Post by marsh8472 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:06 pm

trekfan39, post: 11915052, member: 73542 wrote:The problem with trying to figure this out is the fact that the windows did change from time to time. I'm not sure if they changed going from the 6' model to the 4' but I think some of them did. I do know for sure that ILM did remove some when they redid the model for Generations.
Yeah I'd say so too.
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There's a whole line of windows along where the shoulder meets the neck but on the right one (took that from either generations or these are the voyages, can't remember) there's only a few.

I was counting on the whitefire blueprints but sometimes when I'm not sure whether something should be counted as a window I look to another source but then run into those consistency issues instead. I'm pretty much done counting them except for the neck part.

He provides a blue print for one side of the ship but not the other. I'm thinking it's because his drawing is showing symmetry and allows us to assume the other side looks the same. If that's the case then I can just multiply by 2 when I get the neck count on the neck side provided.

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Re: How many windows does the Enterprise-D have?

Post by marsh8472 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:06 pm

figured out a total
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bottom part of drive section = 279
part of the shoulder not seen from top view, neck, a couple on the nacelle, a few being hidden by the nacelle on the side view = 349 multiplying by 2 assuming symmetry for the other side = 698
shoulder that's visible from top view and back of neck = 524

Plus the 1736 from the saucer section would make it 3,237 total windows

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